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July 27, 2004

In Our Faces

All right.

This topic seemed quite controversial

I hope I don't get tomatoes thrown at me.......?

What ARE the five lessons in The Five People You Meet in Heaven?

I went back to each lesson section and tried to extract the lesson from each person.

1- On the same page with Barbara, the Blue Man seemed the least interesting. But anyway, I took a direct quote from the Blue Man for this lesson:

"Strangers are just family you have yet to come to know."

2- The Captain, I wish he would've said something more objective, but that supports what Mary said, that the lessons were inteded for Eddie to learn:

"...Sometimes when you sacrifice something precious, you're not
really losing it. You're just passing it on to someone else."

From this, I take the lesson is Sacrifice...

3- Ruby:

"You need to forgive your father."

Forgiveness

4- Marguerite, the most sentimental:

"Life has to ened, love doesn't."

Basically, love doesn't end, just takes a different shape or form.

5- Tala, what a surprise:

OK, I honestly don't know the lesson here....someone please throw it in my face.


I think the order of how the Five People were introduced was logical. Every person brought along even more sentimental and difficult issues that Eddie suffered with throughout his life. I'm not sure about the Blue Man. He's significantly less meaningful...well, to me.

Anyway, do say what you take the Five Lessons to be. I missed them, on a conscious level. I wasn't reading for meaning here.

Take it away.



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Oh, almost forgot...I didn't know any other simple way to interpret Blue Man's lesson.

Eek. I have to find my book!

Ana offers that the 3rd lesson for Eddie is to forgiveness. But what do you make of the big revelation as to the cause of his father's death? Is Eddie meant to appreciate his father's fierce loyalty to a friend (a drunken rapist) who moments before betrayed him? He pulls the souse from the water and eventually dies for his trouble. Is that so noble an act that all of his other sins and slights against Eddie are to be absolved?

From a storytelling aspect - the author unveils this big, dramatic secret as a way to redeem Eddie's father. After sending him on a murderous rage, seeking to avenge his wife's honor and settle the score for such an appalling act - Albom twists the plot around to makes Eddie's father a life-saving hero.

If Eddie needs to forgive his father- ok. But I still think his cold harshness was a royally rotten way to treat his own kid.

I am completely with Barbara on this one.

(i knew i forgot to comment on something.)

I don't understand why Eddie needs to forgive his father so easily. Ruby doesn't show to Eddie the real reason why his father was the way that he was and instead shows cheap reasons to why Eddie needs to forgive him.

But...perhaps Eddie needs to forgive him if just to be able to move on with himself...and not really FORGIVE his father in the whole sense of the verb. Am I making myself clear? Sort of like Forgiving but not Forgetting? ... maybe


What was the lesson he learned from Tala? the little vietnamese girl???

I know I've mentioned it here before, but there are a lot of disorganized piles of books here at my place. I finally dug out my copy of Five People which had worked its way to the middle of a pile near my bedroom door.

Ana and Barbara have been discussing Eddie's father, but I just reread the four-page section for the first lesson. Although some have said that the Blue Man was the least interesting, I think he was there to set up the rest of the book. By explaining that there are no random acts, it prepares us for the fact that 3 of the 5 people he meets are strangers and helps us understand more easily how all lives are intertwined even if we're not aware of it while we're alive.

As for Ruby's lesson, I don't think it's just forgiveness. She shows that big dramatic scene which puts Eddie's father in a more sympathetic light and makes it easier for Eddie to forgive. But, I think her real point is that when we're angry at someone, we damage ourselves rather than the person we're angry with.

Eddie blames his father not just for being cruel to him but also for the course his life takes. As a result of his father's death, Eddie ends up spending the rest of his life working on the pier. However, his father's death was not necessarily his father's fault as Ruby shows us. I don't think that scene is supposed to wipe away all of the father's cruelty, but rather to make Eddie see that the hate is what made him end up on the pier.

I think Tala's lesson was that Eddie was supposed to be on the pier. Although his hate for his father made him hate his life there, he was destined to be there because he had killed Tala. The rest of his life was spent keeping children safe in order to make up for what he had done to her.

I don't know why I didn't see it that way, the fifth lesson.

Thanks Mary.

That's a very good point. And I belive you are right. That is what he did...I was just blinded by Eddie's perspective on his job. Now I am happy.

 

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